tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28401170.post3979553930310688816..comments2023-09-04T16:53:58.227+01:00Comments on ....the world's leading....: ....the world's leading....http://www.blogger.com/profile/04151866935732424950noreply@blogger.comBlogger24125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28401170.post-85856373225105432362007-02-07T00:05:00.000+00:002007-02-07T00:05:00.000+00:00Are you really an agency boss?
Seems that the bea...Are you really an agency boss?<br /><br />Seems that the bean counter had indeed been prompted by the freelancer's senior contact prior to this little exchange, but had still ignored a string of emails. And the freelancer was paid, as promised, the following week.....the world's leading....https://www.blogger.com/profile/04151866935732424950noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28401170.post-60466309203690864052007-02-06T18:16:00.000+00:002007-02-06T18:16:00.000+00:00Why didn't this freelancer friend of yours contact...Why didn't this freelancer friend of yours contact the director who originally contracted him / her to do the job? <br /><br />The way these things usually work - and this is true of agencies and clients as well - is the bean counters will usually push something to the front of the queue if asked to by someone from on high. <br /><br />Otherwise - tough luck, it won't happen and your mate is wasting his / her time.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28401170.post-73163532227077929112007-02-06T16:19:00.000+00:002007-02-06T16:19:00.000+00:00Can we have another story posted please or some mo...Can we have another story posted please or some more comments? You don't normally leave it this long TWL.... <br /><br />(Possible clue to TWL's identity methinks - anyone been away lately?)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28401170.post-59684289360655255472007-02-04T17:48:00.000+00:002007-02-04T17:48:00.000+00:00>>"it's the beer talking.">>"it's the beer talking."<<<br /><br />you were pissed at 11.02 on a Friday morning..?? Your late payment problems are obviously worse than I thought...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28401170.post-56657915989626536022007-02-04T09:23:00.000+00:002007-02-04T09:23:00.000+00:00No, no...just fancied getting involved in the "con...No, no...just fancied getting involved in the "conversation"...feeling a bit punchy...it's the beer talking.....the world's leading....https://www.blogger.com/profile/04151866935732424950noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28401170.post-70232533445993277032007-02-02T17:07:00.000+00:002007-02-02T17:07:00.000+00:00TWL, you appear to be being strangely drawn in her...TWL, you appear to be being strangely drawn in here. Having a bad day? Normally it's water of a ducks back...figgishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10415900461391526240noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28401170.post-74491242754171767452007-02-02T16:02:00.000+00:002007-02-02T16:02:00.000+00:00>>"I meant you started the name calling, not the c...>>"I meant you started the name calling, not the conversation. Numpty."<<<br /><br />Ah, my apologies - that wasn't clear, you see....even to a numpty.<br /><br />Anyway, sorry to upset your wife/husband/fiance/girlfriend/boyfriend/mistress (delete as appropriate) - in future may he or she always be paid on time...and not feel the need to resort to smug emails.....amen.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28401170.post-18433989631851132702007-02-02T15:51:00.000+00:002007-02-02T15:51:00.000+00:00I meant you started the name calling, not the conv...I meant you started the name calling, not the conversation. Numpty.<br /><br />And of course, as always here at TWL, all comments are welcome. If they weren't, do you think I'd have ever given yours airtime?<br /><br />A fiver? Can I see your timesheets?<br /><br />Now clear off down the pub.....the world's leading....https://www.blogger.com/profile/04151866935732424950noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28401170.post-7325054955881444182007-02-02T15:42:00.000+00:002007-02-02T15:42:00.000+00:00>>"Anyway, you started it.">>"Anyway, you started it."<< <br /><br />Actually, you did. You posted the experiences of someone who is evidently close to you and then you invited comments. So I commented. <br /><br />Maybe you should amend the descriptor on your blog. Something along the lines of:<br /><br />"Comments warmly welcomed - except any comments that might upset us or our close friends"<br /><br />That'll be a fiver please....my terms are 30 days by the way...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28401170.post-66055286375751778362007-02-02T15:31:00.000+00:002007-02-02T15:31:00.000+00:00"Know this freelancer well, do you..??"
As it goe..."Know this freelancer well, do you..??"<br /><br />As it goes, I do, yeah.<br /><br />But the main thing is, I don't like the sound of you very much.<br /><br />Anyway, you started it.....the world's leading....https://www.blogger.com/profile/04151866935732424950noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28401170.post-43984065843701511962007-02-02T15:18:00.000+00:002007-02-02T15:18:00.000+00:00TWL
I apologise for the lack of stupid gags and v...TWL<br /><br />I apologise for the lack of stupid gags and vicious taunting in both those previous posts by the way. I shall attempt to return to form and stop being so bloody serious. <br /><br />Love<br /><br />Figgisfiggishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10415900461391526240noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28401170.post-66946277152497994522007-02-02T14:55:00.000+00:002007-02-02T14:55:00.000+00:00>>"You'd never speak to a client in such a "smug, ...>>"You'd never speak to a client in such a "smug, arrogant fashion"? But you'd happily refer to a (so you claim) fellow freelancer that you've never met as "a right pain the arse" and a "smug git"..?<br /><br />Sounds like you're a bit of a brown-nosing sap to me...one face for clients, one for peers, eh? I'm surprised you get paid at all."<<<br /><br />blimey, you are touchy, aren't you? And here's me thinking this blog was supposed to be the antidote to all things 'serious' in tech PR.... <br /><br />Know this freelancer well, do you..??Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28401170.post-15871436719531973022007-02-02T14:53:00.000+00:002007-02-02T14:53:00.000+00:00Fair points big fella.Fair points big fella.....the world's leading....https://www.blogger.com/profile/04151866935732424950noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28401170.post-50040139168044939702007-02-02T14:39:00.000+00:002007-02-02T14:39:00.000+00:00> (a) by clearly stating your payment terms on an ...> (a) by clearly stating your payment terms on an invoice you might either expect them to be adhered to or the client to contact you to discuss <<br /><br />TWL, my point is that the company's policy is 60 days and they may well have made that clear on something that has been sent to the freelance. So it is likely there is fault on both sides. <br /><br />>(b) having previously had invoices paid within the 30 days without a problem, that these terms were agreeable to the client.< <br /><br />Is this not more likely that perhaps the case that his contact was making it happen with the finance department? <br /><br />> It also looks like the client had already ignored a few prrvious emails from the freelancer.<<br /><br />True true, however, I'm not convinced the tone taken by the freelancer is the best way forward even if he is frustrated. <br /><br />> This example aside, though, from what we hear, a lot of agencies think it's fair to go beyond payment terms, whether agreed or otherwise.<<br /><br />Quite agree its not acceptable to go beyond payment terms. However, the most important thing from this is that there is clarity of payment terms on both sides and its an issue people need to understand. <br /><br />My overall point being too many people just get freelancers in and because they have barely anything to do with the commercial side of the business don't give freelancers their terms/assume it's all fine/don't care etc etc. The freelance community should make sure they get these terms, as in far too many cases they will have no type of contract, and they are left without a leg to stand on.figgishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10415900461391526240noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28401170.post-69016240723054387622007-02-02T13:33:00.000+00:002007-02-02T13:33:00.000+00:00Of course you haven't got more than a clue about i...Of course you haven't got more than a clue about it than us...that would be simply impossible! What a ridiculous suggestion.<br /><br />You'd never speak to a client in such a "smug, arrogant fashion"? But you'd happily refer to a (so you claim) fellow freelancer that you've never met as "a right pain the arse" and a "smug git"..?<br /><br />Sounds like you're a bit of a brown-nosing sap to me...one face for clients, one for peers, eh? I'm surprised you get paid at all.....the world's leading....https://www.blogger.com/profile/04151866935732424950noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28401170.post-79378807485542840282007-02-02T12:46:00.000+00:002007-02-02T12:46:00.000+00:00>>"Very good anon...what a tough businessman you a...>>"Very good anon...what a tough businessman you are.<br /><br />I'm no psychic, but I'm thinking cocky agency account manager...thinks he's the bee's bollocks...reckons the clients love him above all others...doesn't see those more senior than him doing anything that he can't already do...if he was running this place, blah, blah, blah...<br /><br />Heard it all before sonny. You haven't got a clue.">><br /><br />more of a clue than you by the sound of it, 'sonny'. <br /><br />Actually, I am a freelancer. What is more, I would never speak to a client in such a smug, arrogant fashion - whether they had paid my bills or not.<br /><br />You are, however, correct about one thing - you are no psychic.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28401170.post-57607970471850440532007-02-02T12:18:00.000+00:002007-02-02T12:18:00.000+00:00I've published that anonymous comment about Get a ...I've published that anonymous comment about Get a First Life because it's a blatant piece of spam and I'll let our readers discuss what they think about it.<br /><br />Personally, I think Get a First Life is a load of old tosh lacking in creativity and any merit whatsoever.<br /><br />But that's probably just me.....the world's leading....https://www.blogger.com/profile/04151866935732424950noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28401170.post-81577190317218037672007-02-02T12:13:00.001+00:002007-02-02T12:13:00.001+00:00I guess so Figgis. Yhere was an assumption or two...I guess so Figgis. Yhere was an assumption or two on the freelancer's part. These being that (a) by clearly stating your payment terms on an invoice you might either expect them to be adhered to or the client to contact you to discuss and (b) having previously had invoices paid within the 30 days without a problem, that these terms were agreeable to the client. Which might be deemed fair assumptions to make. It also looks like the client had already ignored a few prrvious emails from the freelancer.<br /><br />This example aside, though, from what we hear, a lot of agencies think it's fair to go beyond payment terms, whether agreed or otherwise.....the world's leading....https://www.blogger.com/profile/04151866935732424950noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28401170.post-67622839334713775562007-02-02T12:13:00.000+00:002007-02-02T12:13:00.000+00:00More interestingly:
http://www.getafirstlife.com/...More interestingly:<br /><br />http://www.getafirstlife.com/Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28401170.post-65948932585921080022007-02-02T11:59:00.000+00:002007-02-02T11:59:00.000+00:00Interesting stuff TWL. However, shouldn't the free...Interesting stuff TWL. However, shouldn't the freelancer have perhaps agreed payment dates, rather than just jumping in and assuming? Whoever he was working for at the agency should have made it clear too of course. they should have a proper supplier relationship. <br /><br />Its a pretty generic problem of PR people not understanding the commercial issues - this is a good example of it, both from the agency and the freelance side. <br /><br />Love Figgis (currently having lost all his passwords like a fool)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28401170.post-69061070020197229532007-02-02T11:05:00.000+00:002007-02-02T11:05:00.000+00:00Ahhh, sherrilynne you're sweet...number one as wel...Ahhh, sherrilynne you're sweet...number one as well! We're overwhelmed.<br /><br />Wasn't sure who you were at first 'cause I can't see your blogger profile, so for those that need a link: http://strivepr.com/wordpress/2007/02/02/fridays-five-february-2nd/....the world's leading....https://www.blogger.com/profile/04151866935732424950noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28401170.post-58323261622890679652007-02-02T11:02:00.000+00:002007-02-02T11:02:00.000+00:00Very good anon...what a tough businessman you are....Very good anon...what a tough businessman you are.<br /><br />I'm no psychic, but I'm thinking cocky agency account manager...thinks he's the bee's bollocks...reckons the clients love him above all others...doesn't see those more senior than him doing anything that he can't already do...if he was running this place, blah, blah, blah...<br /><br />Heard it all before sonny. You haven't got a clue.....the world's leading....https://www.blogger.com/profile/04151866935732424950noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28401170.post-17890877027474616572007-02-02T08:35:00.000+00:002007-02-02T08:35:00.000+00:00Your gripe about collecting on late invoices made ...Your gripe about collecting on late invoices made my top 5 today! Good luck gettig the dosh.Sherrilynnehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14646965304495956766noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28401170.post-5419570172098995982007-02-01T22:45:00.000+00:002007-02-01T22:45:00.000+00:00That freelancer sounds like a right pain in the ar...That freelancer sounds like a right pain in the arse. If I was the bean-counter, I would bump the smug git up to 90 days, just to piss him/her off.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com